England v Germany at football and England v Argentina at rugby – never has it been more fitting ahead of Remembrance Sunday.
Yet performances never quite rose to the levels we might have expected.
As 0-0 draws go, the England/Germany one was reasonably exciting.
England had the best of the chances but couldn’t make any count.
Jesse Lingard had a glorious opportunity in added time but ballooned it over the bar. And that sort of summed up the match.
Both sides were missing loads of first choice players and it showed.
But there were successes – Ruben Loftus-Cheek looked completely at home and a real talent. Has a presence about him. Looks a big game player.
As for their rugby equivalent … they beat Argentina comfortably enough 21-8 but it was far from convincing.
England coach Eddie Jones was tearing his hair out at some of the sloppiness.
Argentina were a stuffy side who came with a limited game plan but a sound defence. They offered little in attack.
But for much of the match the home side seemed devoid of ideas.
Not even Nathan Hughes’ first-half try got them going and they were lucky to get even this breakthrough given the visitors were down to 14 men after a harsh yellow card for Joaquin Tucalet.
Semesa Rokoduguni’s third international try with 14 minutes left finally eased the nerves.
Yet Nicolas Sanchez kept the score presentable with a late score. And along the way Argentina contrived to miss four kickable penalties and a conversion.
Considerable improvement is required when England come up against Australia at Twickenham on Saturday.
That should be a cracker given the extra significance of an Ashes cricket series about to start Down Under.